If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@playground.Sun.COM" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe lro-digest yourid@yourcomputer.yourplace.yourdomain Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: This document is much more useful (fun hot links) if you WEB to: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/ or: http://www.openmarket.com/personal/caloccia/lr/ The Land Rover Owner Mailing List What is the List? Who Subscribes to the list? Some LRO list History How to subscribe? Rovering on the Web ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What is the List? The largest group of Land Rover Owners anywhere in daily communicaitons. The Land Rover Owner or LRO mailing list is for those people who are naturally interested in these legendary British four wheel drive vehicles. In the daily mail from the list, you'll hear tales of off-road mis-adventures, as well as occasional competition news and reviews, not to mention discussion on solving various sorts of mechanical problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Who Subscribes to the list? Presently there are hundreds of men and women, most of whom own one or more Land Rovers, as well as people who are considering acquiring one or are otherwise interested in the marque. The Solihull designed vehicles owned by subscribers include various Series vehicles: from the earliest 80"Series I, through the ever-popular Series II or IIa, and Series III vehicles upto and including the current production Defender 90 & 110, Discovery, and Range Rover models. Many people own ex-military versions, including the light weight and the huge 101" Forward Control. Of course we can't forget those, who in the quest for speed or other qualities have created their very own hybrid Rover. Some for the street, some for racing, fully prepared for Comp. Safari or Cross Country Vehicle trials. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Some LRO list history The LRO list started out with an invitation to readers of the British Cars and Offroad mailing lists in May 1990. By year end there were some twenty subscribers, mostly stateside, with representatives of Canada, Finland, Norway and, of course, the United Kingdom. In mid-1992 Dixon was working on unsticking pistons that hadn't moved in 17 years, and starting to form thoughts about how not to buy a used Land Rover, and while not breaking sockets loaded from Canadian Tire, or watching gear oil freeze, he started on, and still editis the FAQ. We started 1993 fifty strong and had picked up subscribers from around the globe. Terriann was told tales of how during the floods much of her 1/2 mile long driveway was under water, and her commute home included a drive through water deep enough for the pedals to get wet. Meanwhile Dixon's 109" was headed for a grand rebuild at the OLVR Technical Party in March. In September of '94 there were a mere 150 subscribers, that number doubled by the end of the year, (to 360 in January 1995), and doubled again to 700+ in October, by the end of February ('96) the Land Rover Lists were serving over 1000 subscribers on a number of lists: Land-Rover-Owner 858 members (700 digest, 158 real-time) RRO 128 members ( 32 digest, 96 real-time) UK-LRO 182 members ( 22 digest, 160 real-time) AU/EU/ZA 110 members ( 45 AU, 41 EU, 24 ZA ) The number of owners roving the net now numbers in the hundreds (900+), from about the globe. A seperate list was started for Range Rover Owners to discuss technical details and issues assocaited with current production vehicles. In addition to Range Rovers, all of the coil-sprung Land Rovers (90", 100", 127", Defender, Discovery, and Range Rover) are invited to bring technical issues to this list, as these models share similar running gear, suspension and engine choices. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- How to subscribe? With hundreds of readers, subscribing and unsubscribing is now handled by an automated list server. There are a few variations of the list available to suit your life style. The automated list server takes commands such as subscribe listname unsubscribe listname index listname get listname filename help ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Which distribution of the list ? All three distributions of the Land Rover Owner mailing list will deliver all the messages to you, here is how they differ: land-rover-owner This is also known as the real-time list, as every message sent is attempted to be delivered in a timely fashion. With the volume of mail, this is annoying to some, as it can cause many new-mail interruptions during the work day. All Land Rover Owners gather here to swap stories and off-road tall-tales. The Land Rover Owner list tends to have a large number Series owners, mostly from North America (75%), who invariably migrate from tall-tales to to discussing mechanical matters regarding their legacy leaf-sprung Land Rovers. So if you like: grease under your finger nails wimpy heaters warm beer pop-rivits (they're the only fastener you stock) dents (you think they add character) you can't recall when no work needed to be done to your motor you didn't have scraped knuckles you need to know how to: earn a Lug Nut Award Then you can't go wrong with the Land Rover Owner list. If the volume of traffic is a problem, the interruptions are bothersome, or you prefer less frequent mail then: lro-digest This is the digest version. Each day at about 8am GMT/BST, the messages sent in the last 24 hours are processed and made into one large mailing. Thus you'll receive one piece of mail per day from the Land Rover Owner mailing list if you choose this option. If your mail handlers or local software is unable to process very large pieces of mail (in excess of 30KB or 40KB), then you may want to: lro-digest-ltd This is similar lro-digest except that the finished mail will be split into chunks of about 400 lines each, if the day's mail is in excess of that. A header is added to each of the pieces to let you know which order to read or re-assemble them in. Subscribe to LRO ! Send a message to majordomo@land-rover.team.net with the one or more of the subscribe <listname> requests as above, for example, in the message body write: subscribe lro-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Range Rover Owner & Coil Sprung Owner Mailing List/Digest Given the mechanical advances over a few decades, and the standard of fittings expected in vehicles today, a number of advances have been made on the tried and true Land Rover. From the production of the first Range Rover in 1970, to the last of the Classic Range Rovers in February of 1996, the design of Range Rover came to influence tne next major family of 90", 110" & 127" Land Rovers (Defenders), as well the Discovery and the new Range Rover. Those first coil-sprung, live-axle, full-time four wheel drive, Range Rovers set the standard for all to follow, both in the then radical body design, and in the absolute capability of the vehicle. rro (Range Rover Owner) If you want to inquire about fuel injection engine management computer error codes the optional Discovery rear speaker fountain option how to wire up a non-dealer CD changer front/rear receiver mounted winch options how to get a leak-free US spec. Defender canvas top, Then you ought to join the rro (Range Rover Owner) list or the digest version, cso-digest (Coil-Sprung Owner Digest). If you find both the Land Rover Owner and Range Rover Owner lists irrestible, join both, but PLEASE try to avoid posting the same message to both lro and rro lists, as there is a significant number of people who subscribe to both. Subscribe to RRO ! Send a message to majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net with the one or more of the subscribe listname requests as above, for example, in the message body write: subscribe cso-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Regional Mailing Lists If you are a resident in one of the following areas you may wish to also subscribe to a regional list for your area. These lists are entirely seperate from the LRO and RRO lists above, AND everyone wants to keep it that way. The au-lro mailing list Serving Austrailia and New Zealand (40+ members) The eu-lro mailing list Serving Europe (40+ members) The za-lro mailing list Serving South Africa (~25 members) The uk-lro mailing list If you are a resident of the United Kingdom of GB, Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland, or Ireland proper, you will also want to subscribe to this list. There are over 180+ subscribers to this list and traffic is quite now moderate, as most of the Land Rover talk happens on the Land Rover Owner list. This list is used by residents of the UK and Ireland to discuss events and other regional matters. With the popularity of this list increasing a digest version has been added, subscribe as below. To subscribe send a message to majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net with the text (in the message body) subscribe uk-lro or subscribe uk-lro-digest If you have any questions or problems regarding subscribing to any version of the Land Rover Owner lists, please send a message to Majordomo-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net with your query. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rovering on the Web If only keeping up with the Best 4x4xFar while crusing the information superhighway look for more Land Rover stuff at: Land Rover Owner Mailing List pointers pages: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/pages.html http://www.openmarket.com/personal/caloccia/lr/pages.html The Land Rover Page Lloyd's page from down-under. http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/ The RoverWeb Rovering from the States. http://www.missouri.edu/RoverWeb/ If you are interested in other motorsports activities, you can start out with the Team.Net home page or perhaps you will find some Rover cars via the British Cars page or one of the other lesser traveled paths, far from this or any other highway or motorway. Team.Net http://triumph.cs.utah.edu/team.net.html British Cars http://triumph.cs.utah.edu/brits.html Cheers, Bill Caloccia http://www.openmarket.com/personal/caloccia/ R 1 3 2wd H "Land Rover's first, because +--|--| o | Land Rovers last." 2 4 4wd L '63 SIIa 88" - '90 Range Rover ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Please note that the Land Rover Owner mailing list is in no way associated with the similarly named _Land_Rover_Owner_ _International_ magazine, nor are we associed with _Land_Rover_World_ magazine, (both published by some LR anoraks in the UK), nor do we have any association with the Land Rover (tm) company. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This page Copyright 1995,1996 by Bill Caloccia Last Modified: 8 March 1996. This file is also http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/ This file is also http://www.openmarket.com/personal/caloccia/lr/ This file may also be http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/LRO/lro-info.html ----------------------- Recent daily digests are also available from majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net Request individual digest with the command: get lro-digest <yymmdd> get cso-digest <yymmdd> get uk-lro-digest <yymmdd> where yymmdd is year, month, day, as 950223 would be the digest dated 23 February 1995 In addition, a much more complete archive (LRO Daily Digests from June 1994, Monthly Digests (June 1992 to June 1994), and selected messages (May 1990 to June 1992) are available via the Web at: http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/ (see archives section)